First off, these work very well. Just want I wanted. The first time I installed them I tried to follow the instructions and use the included nutserts. What a pain!!! Three of the four nutserts went in well, but the lower one on the drivers side is really hard to install due to the steering wheel and dash. That Jeep ended up being a parts Jeep so I moved the bar to a second Jeep and simply used self tapping screws. That went it great and was easy to install.
